Just to keep our hearts a flutter during this off week, Jen Cheney, one of the lovely ladies at the Washington Post Blog, posted an interview with the actor behind our favorite Constant, Desmond Hume... the one, the only Henry Ian Cusick.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/celebritology/2010/04/talking_lost_with_henry_ian_cu.html#more
Enjoy!
Namaste, Yinz.
Thursday, April 29, 2010
Sunday, April 25, 2010
LOST Lunch 6.13 The Last Recruit
Sorry for the delay, I have been a bit under the weather this weekend.
Small group for this one. Started off with Phyllis' rating: she loved this episode; she felt it moved smoothly, answered questions, and of course, Jin and Sun (she was so excited she called them "Sin and Jon") finally got together! She also loved the scene's with Jack and his son David in Sideways World. Feeling that David is such a "mini-me" of Jack. All agreed that was great - good development of their relationship.
Melissa said her first thought when she saw Sun and Jin approaching each other on Hydra was...don't get electrocuted from the fence! She, along with me and many others, hadn't heard Zoe (Widmore's 2nd in Command) ask for the fences to be turned off. And I watched it twice! Just shows you where my head and heart were....
Loved Claire's horrified reaction when she asked if Desmond was a lawyer - and his emphatic "NO!"
NO ONE believes Sayid killed Desmond. Feel that Desmond is triggering redeeming factors in all the characters; helping them to come back from the dark side, as Hurley so rightly put it. Interesting thought...Ben's journey back began with Ilana's "I'll have you." That was before Desmond's return. So are there other agents at work, as well? Phyllis did wonder if it was meeting Desmond that started one on the road to redemption...and Ben's may have started when he stopped his attack on Penny when he saw little Charlie. Melissa felt that perhaps Hurley's line about redemption and Anakin Skywalker was put in purposely to get people thinking that redemption IS a real possibility.
Side note: Carol noted that she had started to look into making plans for a vacation in Edinburgh, Scotland, and on one site was instructed to "Contact Ms. Hume" !!!!! We were almost surprised she was still here. ;-)
Melissa also had a problem trusting Claire, doesn't feel the same about her change. Felt that she made a choice to leave Aaron, to leave the rest of the group. But, then we don't know yet what transpired between Christian/MIB/Smocke/Whoever back then. She also reminded us that when Claire left Australia to come to the U.S. her Mom was in a coma from a car accident. Boy, we had forgotten that. So... we thought it would be nice for Jack or Kate to bring up that her Mom is alright.
Melissa brought up a good point: doesn't understand why MIB needed Locke's body to be on the plane if he wasn't going to use it. After all, Ilana's group had Locke's body in that silver metal box and made everyone look at it. They buried it at that wonderful funeral where Ben spoke so movingly (yes, I'm teasing - remember Lapidus' comment!) So... MIB hasn't really "taken over" the body.... what's up with that? And if MIB was Christian Shephard (or vice versa) what became of Christian's body?
The scene with Kate and Sawyer at the police station came up, along with the possible implication of the apples (are they Adam and Eve) but it didn't get any discussion.
I brought up my theory of the Candidates and why Smocke needs them off the Island. [He wants them off before the chosen one can take over Jacob's role...and recapture Smocke - put him back in the bottle, so to speak.] As usual the brilliant minds came up with other ideas. Phyllis thinks he really wants them all DEAD; that he will destroy the plane when they are on it. I asked how he could pull that off if he's on it and Carol said: "he'll get off because its a non-smoking flight". Really. Phyllis turned our attention to Doc Jensen's recap which was surprisingly lucid this week. See page under "The Island World: Smokey and the Bandits" his laying out of Smockey trying to get someone else to kill the Candidates - like Widmore.
Phyllis thinks all the candidates have to die for him to get off the Island, but someone else has to do it. Thinking of the Candidates as the Cork...Carol felt that the Cork doesn't have to be destroyed for the Evil to escape, just out of the Bottle - but better and more final if destroyed.
Melissa stated that if Desmond dies she will destroy her LOST DVD's. She warned that TVGuide.com said that there is an episode coming that will "break your heart over and over again..." oh swell. We agreed that there is something about the Desmond/Penny Dynamic that we just love, so well done. As an example Carol pointed to the little moment in Sideways World when they met at the stadium... after he agreed to meet her later for coffee...as she walked away she looked back and gave a little "yes!" motion. So real.
I wondered yet again about Charles Widmore... good or evil? Melissa harkened back to his comment to Locke after meeting in the hospital in Tunisia. Widmore told him that a war was coming. Since then she has thought he was on the good side. I said that often people working for the "greater good" can still do some pretty awful things. At the same moment, Carol and I mentioned the Vulcan philosophy of "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and the one"... Yikes!!! Talk about Great Minds... Or, as a poster I used to have said: Everything I Need to Know About Life I Learned from Star Trek.
Some really nice reflections on Sayid in the Doc Jensen piece. "what he wants to be is the man Nadia fell in love with - he made the choice to be that man again." Nice.
Some blogs make a big deal about Sun and Jin talking English in their big reunion scene but Carol and Melissa didn't think it mattered. Carol did ask: Is Jack dead? Not a bad observation - I mean, he did get quite a walloping from Widmore's artillery and Smocke carried him away, saying "don't worry, you're with me now..." It does harken back to when Claire was blown up in the house. Has Jack been "reanimated" by Smocke? And questions about Ghost Jacob? As Doc Jensen brought up many (all?) of his instructions haven't turned out so good. Oh no, could he be...?
Jack's statement to Sawyer "..the Island isn't done with us yet..." harkens back to the first season when Locke, man of Faith, told Jack, the Man of Science, "The Island brought us here for a reason". Have they changed places? Is Jack really Smocke's "Last Recruit" ?
Yet Carol noted something very deep: Sawyer is non-corruptable. He is the one pure soul - he is only interested in himself so he can't be manipulated. For Sawyer being unable to trust anyone is a strength on the Island. Neither Smocke nor Widmore can get to him.
It was noted that a lot of bodies have piled up over the course of the show, so when you see the title of the upcoming episode "What They Died For" who knows who they are talking about? One thing we all agreed on was that we liked that this show becasue it is so unpredictable. It doesn't follow the usual rules or patterns of TV or movies. "They whip you all around!"
Someone noted that, according to a piece on a DVD, they were going to originally cast Michael Keaton as Jack...when the character was going to be killed off in the series premiere. But something happened and when they decided not to kill off Jack the actor couldn't commit to the series. So....the rest, as they say, is history.
Somewhere I think we talked about whether it was Smocke bringing people back to life , that whole "reanimation" thing - so Sayid could think that he was revived by him and so he could bring back Nadia. But I don't think it's Smocke/MIB. I think he might want Sayid to believe that. But remember... Kate and Sawyer gave young Ben to Richard Alpert to heal. I can't remember how they knew (someone want to fill that in?) but I am thinking that he could be helped by the pool at the Temple because he was still innocent. We know that the pool was different when Sayid was in it and that he was considered infected. What Smocke is doing is different. John Locke is not "alive" again... I think we are seeing a fake, cheap copy. Oh, well, its late and been a crazy weekend so probably not a good time to ponder all of this. We have an extra week to work this all out, right!?!
Namaste, Yinz!
Small group for this one. Started off with Phyllis' rating: she loved this episode; she felt it moved smoothly, answered questions, and of course, Jin and Sun (she was so excited she called them "Sin and Jon") finally got together! She also loved the scene's with Jack and his son David in Sideways World. Feeling that David is such a "mini-me" of Jack. All agreed that was great - good development of their relationship.
Melissa said her first thought when she saw Sun and Jin approaching each other on Hydra was...don't get electrocuted from the fence! She, along with me and many others, hadn't heard Zoe (Widmore's 2nd in Command) ask for the fences to be turned off. And I watched it twice! Just shows you where my head and heart were....
Loved Claire's horrified reaction when she asked if Desmond was a lawyer - and his emphatic "NO!"
NO ONE believes Sayid killed Desmond. Feel that Desmond is triggering redeeming factors in all the characters; helping them to come back from the dark side, as Hurley so rightly put it. Interesting thought...Ben's journey back began with Ilana's "I'll have you." That was before Desmond's return. So are there other agents at work, as well? Phyllis did wonder if it was meeting Desmond that started one on the road to redemption...and Ben's may have started when he stopped his attack on Penny when he saw little Charlie. Melissa felt that perhaps Hurley's line about redemption and Anakin Skywalker was put in purposely to get people thinking that redemption IS a real possibility.
Side note: Carol noted that she had started to look into making plans for a vacation in Edinburgh, Scotland, and on one site was instructed to "Contact Ms. Hume" !!!!! We were almost surprised she was still here. ;-)
Melissa also had a problem trusting Claire, doesn't feel the same about her change. Felt that she made a choice to leave Aaron, to leave the rest of the group. But, then we don't know yet what transpired between Christian/MIB/Smocke/Whoever back then. She also reminded us that when Claire left Australia to come to the U.S. her Mom was in a coma from a car accident. Boy, we had forgotten that. So... we thought it would be nice for Jack or Kate to bring up that her Mom is alright.
Melissa brought up a good point: doesn't understand why MIB needed Locke's body to be on the plane if he wasn't going to use it. After all, Ilana's group had Locke's body in that silver metal box and made everyone look at it. They buried it at that wonderful funeral where Ben spoke so movingly (yes, I'm teasing - remember Lapidus' comment!) So... MIB hasn't really "taken over" the body.... what's up with that? And if MIB was Christian Shephard (or vice versa) what became of Christian's body?
The scene with Kate and Sawyer at the police station came up, along with the possible implication of the apples (are they Adam and Eve) but it didn't get any discussion.
I brought up my theory of the Candidates and why Smocke needs them off the Island. [He wants them off before the chosen one can take over Jacob's role...and recapture Smocke - put him back in the bottle, so to speak.] As usual the brilliant minds came up with other ideas. Phyllis thinks he really wants them all DEAD; that he will destroy the plane when they are on it. I asked how he could pull that off if he's on it and Carol said: "he'll get off because its a non-smoking flight". Really. Phyllis turned our attention to Doc Jensen's recap which was surprisingly lucid this week. See page under "The Island World: Smokey and the Bandits" his laying out of Smockey trying to get someone else to kill the Candidates - like Widmore.
Phyllis thinks all the candidates have to die for him to get off the Island, but someone else has to do it. Thinking of the Candidates as the Cork...Carol felt that the Cork doesn't have to be destroyed for the Evil to escape, just out of the Bottle - but better and more final if destroyed.
Melissa stated that if Desmond dies she will destroy her LOST DVD's. She warned that TVGuide.com said that there is an episode coming that will "break your heart over and over again..." oh swell. We agreed that there is something about the Desmond/Penny Dynamic that we just love, so well done. As an example Carol pointed to the little moment in Sideways World when they met at the stadium... after he agreed to meet her later for coffee...as she walked away she looked back and gave a little "yes!" motion. So real.
I wondered yet again about Charles Widmore... good or evil? Melissa harkened back to his comment to Locke after meeting in the hospital in Tunisia. Widmore told him that a war was coming. Since then she has thought he was on the good side. I said that often people working for the "greater good" can still do some pretty awful things. At the same moment, Carol and I mentioned the Vulcan philosophy of "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and the one"... Yikes!!! Talk about Great Minds... Or, as a poster I used to have said: Everything I Need to Know About Life I Learned from Star Trek.
Some really nice reflections on Sayid in the Doc Jensen piece. "what he wants to be is the man Nadia fell in love with - he made the choice to be that man again." Nice.
Some blogs make a big deal about Sun and Jin talking English in their big reunion scene but Carol and Melissa didn't think it mattered. Carol did ask: Is Jack dead? Not a bad observation - I mean, he did get quite a walloping from Widmore's artillery and Smocke carried him away, saying "don't worry, you're with me now..." It does harken back to when Claire was blown up in the house. Has Jack been "reanimated" by Smocke? And questions about Ghost Jacob? As Doc Jensen brought up many (all?) of his instructions haven't turned out so good. Oh no, could he be...?
Jack's statement to Sawyer "..the Island isn't done with us yet..." harkens back to the first season when Locke, man of Faith, told Jack, the Man of Science, "The Island brought us here for a reason". Have they changed places? Is Jack really Smocke's "Last Recruit" ?
Yet Carol noted something very deep: Sawyer is non-corruptable. He is the one pure soul - he is only interested in himself so he can't be manipulated. For Sawyer being unable to trust anyone is a strength on the Island. Neither Smocke nor Widmore can get to him.
It was noted that a lot of bodies have piled up over the course of the show, so when you see the title of the upcoming episode "What They Died For" who knows who they are talking about? One thing we all agreed on was that we liked that this show becasue it is so unpredictable. It doesn't follow the usual rules or patterns of TV or movies. "They whip you all around!"
Someone noted that, according to a piece on a DVD, they were going to originally cast Michael Keaton as Jack...when the character was going to be killed off in the series premiere. But something happened and when they decided not to kill off Jack the actor couldn't commit to the series. So....the rest, as they say, is history.
Somewhere I think we talked about whether it was Smocke bringing people back to life , that whole "reanimation" thing - so Sayid could think that he was revived by him and so he could bring back Nadia. But I don't think it's Smocke/MIB. I think he might want Sayid to believe that. But remember... Kate and Sawyer gave young Ben to Richard Alpert to heal. I can't remember how they knew (someone want to fill that in?) but I am thinking that he could be helped by the pool at the Temple because he was still innocent. We know that the pool was different when Sayid was in it and that he was considered infected. What Smocke is doing is different. John Locke is not "alive" again... I think we are seeing a fake, cheap copy. Oh, well, its late and been a crazy weekend so probably not a good time to ponder all of this. We have an extra week to work this all out, right!?!
Namaste, Yinz!
Friday, April 23, 2010
One More Musing on 6.13
As I drifted off to sleep last night something that the Ladies at the Washington Post said went through my mind: "As Jack is poised to save John Locke's life in the sideways world, could it be that on island he's also going to attempt to bring Locke/MIB back from the dark side?" And then I remembered from the season premiere...near the end when Jack and Locke meet at the airport. Jack asked Locke what happened (re: being in the wheel chair) and tells him he's a spinal surgeon. Locke says "My condition is irreversible." Jack responds "Nothing is irreversable".... at the time I thought it was a reference to the Incident, BUT what if it refers to MIB taking over Locke...or both?
Now, I must get some coffee....
Namaste, Yinz!
Now, I must get some coffee....
Namaste, Yinz!
Thursday, April 22, 2010
Musings on The Last Recruit 6.13
Well, I watched the episode for the second time tonight. You will be happy to know that as of now... I am still as puzzled as ever. But, also very suspicious about a few things.
First, it was great that Jin and Sun finally got back together in Island World. It did seem a little rushed and I have to admit that until the ladies from Totally Lost brought up the curiosity of their big reunion happening in English it hadn't hit me - why not in Korean? I don't care...they are back together... just like their Sideways World versions... So, does the language difference mean anything, like a hint at which one is "real" ? Man, I hope not. But even as I watched the first time I had a bad feeling...just like I didn't quite believe Jin telling Sun that the baby was alright. I had a feeling he was telling her that to keep her calm.
Second, I was riveted by the conversation between Smocke and Jack at the beginning...the one where Smocke claims he was, in fact, all the dead people traipsing about the Island, including Jack's Dad. Well, to put it bluntly I DON'T BELIEVE HIM. Call me crazy but this is a murdering, psycho pile of sociopathic SMOKE for heavens sake. He tells people what they want to hear to get them to do his bidding. So, pardon me if I don't buy his story.
Smocke tells Jack all he has ever wanted to do is to help him. Help him what? "Leave...but because Jacob chose you, you were trapped on this Island...before you even got here. [What the heck does that little line mean?] Now Jacob's dead we don't have to stay". Jack asks "if you can fly away whenever you want why are you still here?" Smocke says "Because it has to be all of us." Now, all this set off red lights in my head. Smocke couldn't kill Jacob himself, he had to get someone else to do it. But he still can't leave. Hmmm, why did it take him so long to find someone to manipulate (Ben) into killing Jacob? Why, now that its been done, can't he leave? My brain twisted with these questions until...I thought...what if the reason he needs to get them off the Island is because if one of them assumes the mantle of Protector...becomes the New Jacob...he will have the power to imprison MIB again. If The Candidates (Sawyer, Jack, one of the Kwons, etc) does whatever it takes to win the dubious prize of Jacobness.... they will surely know that Job One is putting Smocke back in his hole...bottle, whatever. BUT.... because they are Candidates HE CAN'T KILL THEM. I wonder if he just left would there be the danger of the New Jacob (the old one could leave the Island) going after him or somehow getting him back...after all, how did he get there in the first place?
OK, a more minor question...if Widmore is sending in artillery to get Smocke... if bombs can kill him...why didn't they just shoot him or blow him up when he first went over there? I think it was before Desmond was back and did his Electromagnetic Doughnut Dance. So...maybe...the shelling is tied to Desmond's Car Attack in Sideways World...? Maybe Smocke has a sense of the Sideways World, too and that's why he tried to speed things up on the Island. Or not.
Third and very important...I don't believe for ONE MINUTE that Sayid really killed Desmond. There is no way he would tell Nadia he killed to bring her back... in Sideways World he tells her he has to leave and never see her again after killing Keamy and company. This is a good thing because I doubt very much that Smocke is the one with the power to bring people back to life.
Oh, and I still think there is a reason both children of Christian Shephard are on that Island.
OK, its late and my brain is fried. I am counting on all the great brains at the LOST Lunch on Friday to provide the answers to everything. cool.
Namaste, Yinz!
First, it was great that Jin and Sun finally got back together in Island World. It did seem a little rushed and I have to admit that until the ladies from Totally Lost brought up the curiosity of their big reunion happening in English it hadn't hit me - why not in Korean? I don't care...they are back together... just like their Sideways World versions... So, does the language difference mean anything, like a hint at which one is "real" ? Man, I hope not. But even as I watched the first time I had a bad feeling...just like I didn't quite believe Jin telling Sun that the baby was alright. I had a feeling he was telling her that to keep her calm.
Second, I was riveted by the conversation between Smocke and Jack at the beginning...the one where Smocke claims he was, in fact, all the dead people traipsing about the Island, including Jack's Dad. Well, to put it bluntly I DON'T BELIEVE HIM. Call me crazy but this is a murdering, psycho pile of sociopathic SMOKE for heavens sake. He tells people what they want to hear to get them to do his bidding. So, pardon me if I don't buy his story.
Smocke tells Jack all he has ever wanted to do is to help him. Help him what? "Leave...but because Jacob chose you, you were trapped on this Island...before you even got here. [What the heck does that little line mean?] Now Jacob's dead we don't have to stay". Jack asks "if you can fly away whenever you want why are you still here?" Smocke says "Because it has to be all of us." Now, all this set off red lights in my head. Smocke couldn't kill Jacob himself, he had to get someone else to do it. But he still can't leave. Hmmm, why did it take him so long to find someone to manipulate (Ben) into killing Jacob? Why, now that its been done, can't he leave? My brain twisted with these questions until...I thought...what if the reason he needs to get them off the Island is because if one of them assumes the mantle of Protector...becomes the New Jacob...he will have the power to imprison MIB again. If The Candidates (Sawyer, Jack, one of the Kwons, etc) does whatever it takes to win the dubious prize of Jacobness.... they will surely know that Job One is putting Smocke back in his hole...bottle, whatever. BUT.... because they are Candidates HE CAN'T KILL THEM. I wonder if he just left would there be the danger of the New Jacob (the old one could leave the Island) going after him or somehow getting him back...after all, how did he get there in the first place?
OK, a more minor question...if Widmore is sending in artillery to get Smocke... if bombs can kill him...why didn't they just shoot him or blow him up when he first went over there? I think it was before Desmond was back and did his Electromagnetic Doughnut Dance. So...maybe...the shelling is tied to Desmond's Car Attack in Sideways World...? Maybe Smocke has a sense of the Sideways World, too and that's why he tried to speed things up on the Island. Or not.
Third and very important...I don't believe for ONE MINUTE that Sayid really killed Desmond. There is no way he would tell Nadia he killed to bring her back... in Sideways World he tells her he has to leave and never see her again after killing Keamy and company. This is a good thing because I doubt very much that Smocke is the one with the power to bring people back to life.
Oh, and I still think there is a reason both children of Christian Shephard are on that Island.
OK, its late and my brain is fried. I am counting on all the great brains at the LOST Lunch on Friday to provide the answers to everything. cool.
Namaste, Yinz!
Tuesday, April 20, 2010
Schedule Info
First, it looks like the LOST LUNCH Gang will be meeting on Friday this week.
Second, here is some information from TVGuide.com http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/lost/100272 :
ABC will air five hours of Lost-themed programming on the night of the show's series finale.
First up on Sunday, May 23: a two-hour recap show of all six seasons of Lost at 7/6c. At 9/8c will be the actual two-hour series finale episode of the series. Finally, at 11:35/10:35c, Lost fanatic Jimmy Kimmel will host Jimmy Kimmel Live: Aloha to Lost, a one-hour special that analyzes the series, with special guests Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof, Lost's co-executive producers, and several as-yet-unnamed cast members.
Tonight's new episode is The Last Recruit. Next week they will re-run Ab Aeterno, the Richard Alpert centric episode. Then, the mad dash to The End, literally.
Namaste, Yinz
Second, here is some information from TVGuide.com http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/lost/100272 :
ABC will air five hours of Lost-themed programming on the night of the show's series finale.
First up on Sunday, May 23: a two-hour recap show of all six seasons of Lost at 7/6c. At 9/8c will be the actual two-hour series finale episode of the series. Finally, at 11:35/10:35c, Lost fanatic Jimmy Kimmel will host Jimmy Kimmel Live: Aloha to Lost, a one-hour special that analyzes the series, with special guests Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof, Lost's co-executive producers, and several as-yet-unnamed cast members.
Tonight's new episode is The Last Recruit. Next week they will re-run Ab Aeterno, the Richard Alpert centric episode. Then, the mad dash to The End, literally.
Namaste, Yinz
Thursday, April 15, 2010
LOST Lunch 6.12 Everybody Loves Hugo
Small group today, work does intrude so....
I started off noting something that really struck me watching the episode: the moments when Smocke seemed to lose his confidence...when that smug look of control fell and one caught a glimpse of fear in his eyes. Once when he saw the young boy - or another young boy, we thought this one was different, and we wondered if it was the bother of the other one. Another instance was when he heard Desmond's response to "Why aren't you afraid?" and another when he heard Desmond's confident answer to "do you know who I am?"
ILANA GOT BLOWN UP!!! what a way to go. It did strike us all as a bit weird that she was so NOT careful with the unstable dynamite from the Black Rock...I mean...dropping those water bottles on top of them in her bag did NOT seem smart. Just what was she trained for... military arts, spying, protecting strange ethereal beings? All of us were glad they didn't show the gore...though we supposed there wasn't anything left of her...must admit we did sort of want another Hugo-ism like "you've got some Ilana on you..." Ben's musings on the incident were priceless.
The Voices - who else might be stuck there? I thought it could be folks going back hundreds of years, but of the Flight 815 passengers we were sort of stumped. If a criteria is that you did something bad... sort of eliminates Boone, Shannon, and Libby. Ana Lucia, Mr. Eko, per chance? We wondered if it was a factor if we hadn't seen the person in Sideways World, which might indicate that they had "moved on". Is there a connection between the 2 worlds on this... and if so does it matter when you died? Our brains started to steam here so we moved on.
Phyllis wondered if Desmond tried to kill Locke in Sideways World to prevent MIB from getting into his body. Thought it was a great scene when Ben checked Desmond out as a potential pervert. We think he used Charlie's name for his "child" because he had just seen him at the hospital. Of course it could be an echo from world to world, like when the name Aaron popped into Claire's mind when asked what she was going to name her baby.
Libby - was killed in the hatch before the first explosion... so does that effect her status in the 2 worlds? Fans of the show House: Phyllis reported that the actress will be appearing on that show as Wilson's ex-wife soon...I'm soooo happy!
Wondered - regarding the mental hospital - where was Dave? The imaginary (?) friend Hurley saw on the Island way back in the episode "Dave", #18, Season 2. BTW, we also saw Dr. Brooks in that episode, played by the same actor, Bruce Davison. Nice continuity. (Lostpedia is soooo handy!) It was nice to see the ole game room, though we wondered where was the fellow who gave Hurley the numbers though as I type I think: would he even exist in Sideways World and besides, Hurley was never there to hear him.
Phyllis (and someone else) expressed some feelings that all this is somehow anti-climatic... taking time to give anwers slows down the proceedings. Kristina hoped it wouldn't all end up being about Loooove. I think. Can't read my own writing... but we sort of got away from mushy love since, again, Constants don't have to be one's love interest.
Lisa brought up the question: Will the Black Rock being gone effect anything? And why didn't Smocke's group react to the explosion?
Happily everyone reminded me that Jin is with Widmore. I had sort of lost track of him. This is why it's good to have people to chat with about this show. I can't remember it all myself!
Kristina brought up how creepy it was that the 3 people Smocke needed to get on the plane just happened to wander into his camp. Just as she said it I thought - he knew they were coming...that's what he was waiting around for! Was he controlling Michael? Oh no!
General feeling that Widmore has same goal as Jacob...to keep Smokey on the Island to prevent disaster..
General question: is Sayid really dead? or just his soul, spirit? We want him HAPPY!!! (and some of us were happy that the actor, Naveen Andrews, 41, likes older women; some were disappointed - he has been with the actress Barbara Hershey (21 years his senior) for many years. [yeah IMDb.com!]
Did Smocke throw Desmond down the well because he knew he was going to try to kill "him" in Sideways World...or that he is just a threat in general? Is it the Well that holds the Donkey Wheel? Will Christian Shephard make an appearance? Feel like he will and that the character is very important. Can't be a coincidence that BOTH of his children ended up on the Island. Carol dropped in long enough to make the wonderful prediction: In all the Lassie shows (it seemed) someone would tell the heroic dog that someone (Timmy?) was trapped down a well and to go get help. Well, it seems only natural then that VINCENT will come and rescue Desmond! I LIKE it. OK, I LOVE IT.
Does Desmond really think that Smocke is John Locke, or does he know its really MIB and was messing with his mind? No one bought Doc Jensen's idea that Locke was always evil. Or something like that. Do feel its possible that getting to that Well was all part of Desmond's (and Widmore's) plan...they need to be close to the electromagnetism and Smocke lead them right to it.
Some eagle eyes noted an image in the previews of a face one half Claire and one half Locke. Creepy!!!
Kristina thought Smocke was taunting Desmond by asking him "how long did you push that button?"
Lisa wondered if there was a connection between Dr. Chang and Hurley but we just think its that Hurley made a donation to the museum...and it was a way to get to see our old friend. She also wondered why Libby started to remember the other world when she saw Hurley in a commercial and why he got memories back when they kissed... is one the other person's Constant? Is Sayid's problem that he doesn't have, or lost, his Constant?
So, see, we cleared up everything, HA HA HA.
That's it... oh, except we wondered how they were going to work 5 more episodes into 6 more dates... Lisa said she read somewhere that they are going to repeat Ab Aeterno one night. Let me know if you can confirm that anywhere.
ok, I'm beat...
Namaste, Yinz!
I started off noting something that really struck me watching the episode: the moments when Smocke seemed to lose his confidence...when that smug look of control fell and one caught a glimpse of fear in his eyes. Once when he saw the young boy - or another young boy, we thought this one was different, and we wondered if it was the bother of the other one. Another instance was when he heard Desmond's response to "Why aren't you afraid?" and another when he heard Desmond's confident answer to "do you know who I am?"
ILANA GOT BLOWN UP!!! what a way to go. It did strike us all as a bit weird that she was so NOT careful with the unstable dynamite from the Black Rock...I mean...dropping those water bottles on top of them in her bag did NOT seem smart. Just what was she trained for... military arts, spying, protecting strange ethereal beings? All of us were glad they didn't show the gore...though we supposed there wasn't anything left of her...must admit we did sort of want another Hugo-ism like "you've got some Ilana on you..." Ben's musings on the incident were priceless.
The Voices - who else might be stuck there? I thought it could be folks going back hundreds of years, but of the Flight 815 passengers we were sort of stumped. If a criteria is that you did something bad... sort of eliminates Boone, Shannon, and Libby. Ana Lucia, Mr. Eko, per chance? We wondered if it was a factor if we hadn't seen the person in Sideways World, which might indicate that they had "moved on". Is there a connection between the 2 worlds on this... and if so does it matter when you died? Our brains started to steam here so we moved on.
Phyllis wondered if Desmond tried to kill Locke in Sideways World to prevent MIB from getting into his body. Thought it was a great scene when Ben checked Desmond out as a potential pervert. We think he used Charlie's name for his "child" because he had just seen him at the hospital. Of course it could be an echo from world to world, like when the name Aaron popped into Claire's mind when asked what she was going to name her baby.
Libby - was killed in the hatch before the first explosion... so does that effect her status in the 2 worlds? Fans of the show House: Phyllis reported that the actress will be appearing on that show as Wilson's ex-wife soon...I'm soooo happy!
Wondered - regarding the mental hospital - where was Dave? The imaginary (?) friend Hurley saw on the Island way back in the episode "Dave", #18, Season 2. BTW, we also saw Dr. Brooks in that episode, played by the same actor, Bruce Davison. Nice continuity. (Lostpedia is soooo handy!) It was nice to see the ole game room, though we wondered where was the fellow who gave Hurley the numbers though as I type I think: would he even exist in Sideways World and besides, Hurley was never there to hear him.
Phyllis (and someone else) expressed some feelings that all this is somehow anti-climatic... taking time to give anwers slows down the proceedings. Kristina hoped it wouldn't all end up being about Loooove. I think. Can't read my own writing... but we sort of got away from mushy love since, again, Constants don't have to be one's love interest.
Lisa brought up the question: Will the Black Rock being gone effect anything? And why didn't Smocke's group react to the explosion?
Happily everyone reminded me that Jin is with Widmore. I had sort of lost track of him. This is why it's good to have people to chat with about this show. I can't remember it all myself!
Kristina brought up how creepy it was that the 3 people Smocke needed to get on the plane just happened to wander into his camp. Just as she said it I thought - he knew they were coming...that's what he was waiting around for! Was he controlling Michael? Oh no!
General feeling that Widmore has same goal as Jacob...to keep Smokey on the Island to prevent disaster..
General question: is Sayid really dead? or just his soul, spirit? We want him HAPPY!!! (and some of us were happy that the actor, Naveen Andrews, 41, likes older women; some were disappointed - he has been with the actress Barbara Hershey (21 years his senior) for many years. [yeah IMDb.com!]
Did Smocke throw Desmond down the well because he knew he was going to try to kill "him" in Sideways World...or that he is just a threat in general? Is it the Well that holds the Donkey Wheel? Will Christian Shephard make an appearance? Feel like he will and that the character is very important. Can't be a coincidence that BOTH of his children ended up on the Island. Carol dropped in long enough to make the wonderful prediction: In all the Lassie shows (it seemed) someone would tell the heroic dog that someone (Timmy?) was trapped down a well and to go get help. Well, it seems only natural then that VINCENT will come and rescue Desmond! I LIKE it. OK, I LOVE IT.
Does Desmond really think that Smocke is John Locke, or does he know its really MIB and was messing with his mind? No one bought Doc Jensen's idea that Locke was always evil. Or something like that. Do feel its possible that getting to that Well was all part of Desmond's (and Widmore's) plan...they need to be close to the electromagnetism and Smocke lead them right to it.
Some eagle eyes noted an image in the previews of a face one half Claire and one half Locke. Creepy!!!
Kristina thought Smocke was taunting Desmond by asking him "how long did you push that button?"
Lisa wondered if there was a connection between Dr. Chang and Hurley but we just think its that Hurley made a donation to the museum...and it was a way to get to see our old friend. She also wondered why Libby started to remember the other world when she saw Hurley in a commercial and why he got memories back when they kissed... is one the other person's Constant? Is Sayid's problem that he doesn't have, or lost, his Constant?
So, see, we cleared up everything, HA HA HA.
That's it... oh, except we wondered how they were going to work 5 more episodes into 6 more dates... Lisa said she read somewhere that they are going to repeat Ab Aeterno one night. Let me know if you can confirm that anywhere.
ok, I'm beat...
Namaste, Yinz!
Tuesday, April 13, 2010
Tidbits
First and foremost check this out:
Standings: NL EAST
Philadelphia .857
Florida .500
Washington .429
Atlanta .429
NY Mets .333
The Nats are not the Worst!!! the Nats are NOT the Worst!
OK, LOST... like, holy WOW, I have no idea what is happening...and I love it. 3 jaw dropping moments in one show*. Love, humor and an explanation of the Whispers. One more little thing: I don't think Smocke is quite as confident as he would like everyone to think. Desmond really shook him up with his not being afraid... he lost that creepy smile of his at least 3 times this episode.
I am too tired now to say much more so until I have had time to digest...and after my volunteer day tomorrow and who knows what... I will return. In the meantime... The Nats are Not the Worst!!!!
Namaste, Yinz!
*for me...Ilana's demise, Desmond's fall - yeah I knew it was coming but still..., and then his run down of Sideways Locke.
Standings: NL EAST
Philadelphia .857
Florida .500
Washington .429
Atlanta .429
NY Mets .333
The Nats are not the Worst!!! the Nats are NOT the Worst!
OK, LOST... like, holy WOW, I have no idea what is happening...and I love it. 3 jaw dropping moments in one show*. Love, humor and an explanation of the Whispers. One more little thing: I don't think Smocke is quite as confident as he would like everyone to think. Desmond really shook him up with his not being afraid... he lost that creepy smile of his at least 3 times this episode.
I am too tired now to say much more so until I have had time to digest...and after my volunteer day tomorrow and who knows what... I will return. In the meantime... The Nats are Not the Worst!!!!
Namaste, Yinz!
*for me...Ilana's demise, Desmond's fall - yeah I knew it was coming but still..., and then his run down of Sideways Locke.
Monday, April 12, 2010
Season 6 Episode List
I typed this up for my own use and thought some of you might find it of interest...useful...mysterious... so, here it is:
LOST SEASON 6 EPISODES
[Numbering according to ABC.com LOST site]
6.1 LA X pt. 1
6.2 LA X pt. 2
6.3 What Kate Does
6.4 The Substitute
6.5 Lighthouse
6.6 Sundown
6.7 Dr. Linus
6.8 Recon
6.9 Ab Aerterno
6.10 The Package
6.11 Happily Ever After
6.12 Everybody Loves Hugo
6.13 The Last Recruit
6.14 The Candidate
6.15 Across the Sea
6.16 What They Died For
6.17 and 6.18 THE END
LOST SEASON 6 EPISODES
[Numbering according to ABC.com LOST site]
6.1 LA X pt. 1
6.2 LA X pt. 2
6.3 What Kate Does
6.4 The Substitute
6.5 Lighthouse
6.6 Sundown
6.7 Dr. Linus
6.8 Recon
6.9 Ab Aerterno
6.10 The Package
6.11 Happily Ever After
6.12 Everybody Loves Hugo
6.13 The Last Recruit
6.14 The Candidate
6.15 Across the Sea
6.16 What They Died For
6.17 and 6.18 THE END
Friday, April 9, 2010
Tidbits, Updates
Just saw this at TVbytheNumbers.com:
ABC Schedule for Sunday, May 23:
7:00-8:00 p.m. “America’s Funniest Home Videos”
8:00-9:00 p.m. “Lost Recap Special”
9:00-11:00 p.m. “Lost” (Special Two-Hour Finale on a Special Night)
Also, I wanted to add a bit that in my heat induced stupor I neglected to put in my main 6.11 Post:
The Lovely Lisa shared this posting with the Lunch Bunch: http://www.fancast.com/blogs/2010/tv-news/lost-recap-happily-ever-after-the-power-of-love/?cmpid=FCST_tvnews
Most interesting information is the look at the list of names of main characters, their meanings, and the clue it may offer as to who is Jacob's successor. The author also claims that there is no coffee shop at the location that Penny gives Desmond. However, note that the Washington Post Ladies say there IS one near that intersection... I leave it to you, dear readers, to do your own investigations and come up with your own theories.
Last, but certainly not least...THE NATIONALS WON YESTERDAY!!!!!!
Yes, we beat the Phillies 6-5...so we already are starting with a better record than last year.
Namaste, Yinz!
ABC Schedule for Sunday, May 23:
7:00-8:00 p.m. “America’s Funniest Home Videos”
8:00-9:00 p.m. “Lost Recap Special”
9:00-11:00 p.m. “Lost” (Special Two-Hour Finale on a Special Night)
Also, I wanted to add a bit that in my heat induced stupor I neglected to put in my main 6.11 Post:
The Lovely Lisa shared this posting with the Lunch Bunch: http://www.fancast.com/blogs/2010/tv-news/lost-recap-happily-ever-after-the-power-of-love/?cmpid=FCST_tvnews
Most interesting information is the look at the list of names of main characters, their meanings, and the clue it may offer as to who is Jacob's successor. The author also claims that there is no coffee shop at the location that Penny gives Desmond. However, note that the Washington Post Ladies say there IS one near that intersection... I leave it to you, dear readers, to do your own investigations and come up with your own theories.
Last, but certainly not least...THE NATIONALS WON YESTERDAY!!!!!!
Yes, we beat the Phillies 6-5...so we already are starting with a better record than last year.
Namaste, Yinz!
Thursday, April 8, 2010
LOST Lunch 6.11 Happily Ever After
Your intrepid reporter schlepped downtown in our massive heatwave (OK, well, maybe not that bad today, but hey, I like sympathy too, you know...) to join with the gang to discuss the wonderful Desmond Centric "oh my heavens did they actually answer a question" episode...and yes, to see how Melissa came through it - she's fine. Thanks to the kindness of local LOST fan Leslie I got to wear a wonderful new t-shirt from Ian Leino which you can see here http://www.ianleino.com/ . Scroll down past those cool beer labels...yep, that's me in the photo...this shirt is soooo slimming, n'est pas? ;-)
Well, I started off by once again confessing to my guessing errors: there was no Libby, no funeral, no bagpipes... so, the gang wondered, just what is the sacrifice that Charles Widmore will ask of Desmond?
Carol informed the gang the Imdb.com (a really great website - under my links list for Movies) has a list of all the remaining episodes. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/episodes#season-6 [Note: They number the episodes so that last night's was 610. The Washington Post Lost Blog does, too. I go by the numbering at ABC.com where they broke the premiere into 2 parts, so Happily Ever After is listed as 611.] Next week's episode is "Everybody Loves Hugo" (we hope in a good non-lethal way) and there is the potentially ominous "What They Died For" as the penultimate episode. The series finale? What else: "The End".
This is where the discussion turned to Constants, a thread that weaved through the whole meeting. We wondered who the "...They..." were... those who weren't Constants, people that the MIB killed (and why?) and we certainly are hoping its no one new...but what are the odds of us being that lucky? Mr. Eko came up, we wondered if his brother was HIS Constant...so when he died it left Eko vulnerable.
Phyllis said she was confused. This was another recurring theme of our lunch discussion.
Oh, that answer we got... at least some of the folks in Sideways World ARE having vibes, if not downright memories, of the Island World.
Lisa and Melissa felt that there was too much of the Sideways World and not enough on the Island...but then they loved the focus on Desmond...
Carol remembered a Star Trek: Next Generation episode where Captain Picard is hit by an energy beam from a probe and loses consciousness; he spends most of the time living another life on a planet as, among other things, a flute maker and player. When he is revived (really only 25 minutes later) he retains the memories and knowledge of that civilization while able to return to his own life. See the full write up here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inner_Light_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) Might the Sideways World be something similar?
I brought up my long held feeling that BOTH the Island World and the Sideways World were not meant to be, the results of explosions, mistakes... something. Widmore knows this somehow and is trying to put everything "right" but we don't know what that could be. Is he a good witch or a bad witch? He once wanted Ben to kill the baby Alex, something that seems totally evil. Can he be trusted now? Melissa commented that there is a lot of ambiguity about Good and Bad on the show.
Is Charlie Desmond's Constant? He seems to be acting like a Guardian Angel trying to guide Desmond. It was then a little light went off in my head... Charlie was "stepping in" - just like Richard had encouraged Jacob in their conversation on the beach. General discussion about Constants: No one gets through life alone, without guides, supporters, people to point the way at critical times. Everyone needs a Constant. If you don't have one nudging you along the path of Good you are very likely to get one who will push you the other way. Constants are these Guiding Voices to the Good.
Great Moment when Daniel pulled out his journal, Melissa thought sure it was going to be the page where he had written "Desmond is my Constant" - I just thought it a hoot - Mom gave him that thing in Sideways World, too! We loved when Mrs. Hawking, oops, Widmore, OK, ELOISE... when she first saw Desmond. Her "violation" line was soooo creepy. Cheers on the return of George Mankowski, too. The Painting in Widmore's office of the Scales of Justice, one white stone and one black one: Maybe in Sideways World Widmore was on the Island (and met his dear wife...) so are these another sign of that reality seeping through?
When Desmond regains consciousness on the Island it is preceded by White Clouds...very very similar to the ones we saw in the season premiere... the camera went through a window on Flt 815...through the clouds then down into the ocean...down to the ruins of the Island. That can't be just a co-inky dink! Are they a representation of a portal between the 2 realities? I believe that Desmond remembered Sideways World after he awoke in the Magnetic Doughnuts Room. Speaking of which, loved that I am not the only one who thought of the Flux Capacitor when they cranked that baby up! Pop culture nerds of the world UNITE!
All felt Sayid's brief appearance was very powerful...and creepy. But someone wondered if he might be filling a guardian role, too? Hmmmm.... I strongly felt that Desmond was so calm because he and Widmore had talked once he "came back"... Widmore told him a plan that included the need for Desmond to go back to the main Island. He probably knew that Sayid was there to "retrieve" Desmond - back to all that manipulation MIB and Widmore were doing. So, Desmond knew what was coming.
In my notes I have written "the girls got distracted by naked Desmond, so handsome...." yada, yada, yada. It was at the other end of the table and they do get rambunctious down there.... I don't know how it started, the discussion also included how good Desmond looked all cleaned up in that suit, especially, I think, when he went to Charles' office. Let me say here that things got a little, shall we say, the discussion took a less than intellectually based turn. Probably good that the fellows weren't there today...maybe they knew. But dang...Desmond is HOT!!!!
This is where Carol told us about her Tarot card reading on a trip to England in about 1995. It was her last day and she was using up her last English money...ok, blowing it on something fun. The person told her that a significant person in her life would be a man with a Scottish accent. !!!!! This is where we remembered that Phyllis actually saw Desmond (OK, Henry Ian Cusick) up at Comet on Connecticut Ave, NW, playing ping pong with his son. She was properly demure and did not intrude. DARN! So, we thought, maybe Carol will run into him sometime, too? She also reminded us that bagpipes are also an Irish thing...Irish like Charlie.
Great scene, though high on the WOW meter: Desmond and Charlie in the water, Charlie reliving his Looking Glass "Not Penny's Boat" moment. Wonder if Charlie really is conscious of the Island World, it seemed like he kept trying to kill himself to see the Blonde woman again. If he knew of the alternative world wouldn't he know killing himself wouldn't achieve anything - or...(I just thought) was it that sense of hopelessness that pushed him to suicide?
Is Desmond's salutation "See you in another life, Brotha" an indication that he has been through the Portals before? Does he know it on a subconscious level?
Is the Sacrifice that Desmond will have to stay on the Island? Does his ability to survive the electomagnetism bursts signify that he is tied to the Island...OF the Island somehow? If he has to stay, then we all felt that Penny and little Charlie better be there with him or we are going to be VERY not happy. And ...wait for it... could "Adam and Eve" really be DESMOND and PENNY?!?!?!? OoooooooH!!!!!!
Yes, for a brief moment we thought...if they are Adam and Eve, could little Charlie have grown up to be...CHARLES WIDMORE?!?!?!?!?!? Oi, Vay!
Is the coffee shop where Penny wants to meet Desmond for their first date the one where Libby met him to give him her boat in Island World?
HOPE REDEMPTION LOVE is that what its all about? Phyllis put it...the Answer to LOST is LOVE.
So here is where I put forth my most bizarro theory: In Sideways World, where the Island is destroyed, MIB succeeded in his escape plan. He destroyed the Island so he could never be put back in his prison. He is now in...Sydney! where he knows what Mrs. Widmore is up to...and so he took Christian Shepard's coffin off the plane! Eloise had told Ben that all had to be on the plane as close to the original Flt 815 as possible...including the body. What, you say, but this is Sideways World. Yes, but remember Eloise's reaction to seeing Desmond at the benefit... he was too soon, "in violation..." that weird, crafty woman knows LOTS more than where the fork should go! Now, we also came up with: Has Widmore ALWAYS known that Desmond needed to be on the Island? Is that why he was so mean to him...tried to keep him and Penny apart? Why he sponsored the sailing race that Desmond entered, the race that took him near the Island, where he crashed...like a certain other ship we know so well. Could it be that Eloise and Widmore have been working together for a loooong time, maybe in both worlds?
So, in other words, it IS all about Desmond!!!!!!!!!! not that that's a bad thing....
At this point we all admitted being confused and adjourned.
Namaste, Yinz
Well, I started off by once again confessing to my guessing errors: there was no Libby, no funeral, no bagpipes... so, the gang wondered, just what is the sacrifice that Charles Widmore will ask of Desmond?
Carol informed the gang the Imdb.com (a really great website - under my links list for Movies) has a list of all the remaining episodes. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/episodes#season-6 [Note: They number the episodes so that last night's was 610. The Washington Post Lost Blog does, too. I go by the numbering at ABC.com where they broke the premiere into 2 parts, so Happily Ever After is listed as 611.] Next week's episode is "Everybody Loves Hugo" (we hope in a good non-lethal way) and there is the potentially ominous "What They Died For" as the penultimate episode. The series finale? What else: "The End".
This is where the discussion turned to Constants, a thread that weaved through the whole meeting. We wondered who the "...They..." were... those who weren't Constants, people that the MIB killed (and why?) and we certainly are hoping its no one new...but what are the odds of us being that lucky? Mr. Eko came up, we wondered if his brother was HIS Constant...so when he died it left Eko vulnerable.
Phyllis said she was confused. This was another recurring theme of our lunch discussion.
Oh, that answer we got... at least some of the folks in Sideways World ARE having vibes, if not downright memories, of the Island World.
Lisa and Melissa felt that there was too much of the Sideways World and not enough on the Island...but then they loved the focus on Desmond...
Carol remembered a Star Trek: Next Generation episode where Captain Picard is hit by an energy beam from a probe and loses consciousness; he spends most of the time living another life on a planet as, among other things, a flute maker and player. When he is revived (really only 25 minutes later) he retains the memories and knowledge of that civilization while able to return to his own life. See the full write up here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inner_Light_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) Might the Sideways World be something similar?
I brought up my long held feeling that BOTH the Island World and the Sideways World were not meant to be, the results of explosions, mistakes... something. Widmore knows this somehow and is trying to put everything "right" but we don't know what that could be. Is he a good witch or a bad witch? He once wanted Ben to kill the baby Alex, something that seems totally evil. Can he be trusted now? Melissa commented that there is a lot of ambiguity about Good and Bad on the show.
Is Charlie Desmond's Constant? He seems to be acting like a Guardian Angel trying to guide Desmond. It was then a little light went off in my head... Charlie was "stepping in" - just like Richard had encouraged Jacob in their conversation on the beach. General discussion about Constants: No one gets through life alone, without guides, supporters, people to point the way at critical times. Everyone needs a Constant. If you don't have one nudging you along the path of Good you are very likely to get one who will push you the other way. Constants are these Guiding Voices to the Good.
Great Moment when Daniel pulled out his journal, Melissa thought sure it was going to be the page where he had written "Desmond is my Constant" - I just thought it a hoot - Mom gave him that thing in Sideways World, too! We loved when Mrs. Hawking, oops, Widmore, OK, ELOISE... when she first saw Desmond. Her "violation" line was soooo creepy. Cheers on the return of George Mankowski, too. The Painting in Widmore's office of the Scales of Justice, one white stone and one black one: Maybe in Sideways World Widmore was on the Island (and met his dear wife...) so are these another sign of that reality seeping through?
When Desmond regains consciousness on the Island it is preceded by White Clouds...very very similar to the ones we saw in the season premiere... the camera went through a window on Flt 815...through the clouds then down into the ocean...down to the ruins of the Island. That can't be just a co-inky dink! Are they a representation of a portal between the 2 realities? I believe that Desmond remembered Sideways World after he awoke in the Magnetic Doughnuts Room. Speaking of which, loved that I am not the only one who thought of the Flux Capacitor when they cranked that baby up! Pop culture nerds of the world UNITE!
All felt Sayid's brief appearance was very powerful...and creepy. But someone wondered if he might be filling a guardian role, too? Hmmmm.... I strongly felt that Desmond was so calm because he and Widmore had talked once he "came back"... Widmore told him a plan that included the need for Desmond to go back to the main Island. He probably knew that Sayid was there to "retrieve" Desmond - back to all that manipulation MIB and Widmore were doing. So, Desmond knew what was coming.
In my notes I have written "the girls got distracted by naked Desmond, so handsome...." yada, yada, yada. It was at the other end of the table and they do get rambunctious down there.... I don't know how it started, the discussion also included how good Desmond looked all cleaned up in that suit, especially, I think, when he went to Charles' office. Let me say here that things got a little, shall we say, the discussion took a less than intellectually based turn. Probably good that the fellows weren't there today...maybe they knew. But dang...Desmond is HOT!!!!
This is where Carol told us about her Tarot card reading on a trip to England in about 1995. It was her last day and she was using up her last English money...ok, blowing it on something fun. The person told her that a significant person in her life would be a man with a Scottish accent. !!!!! This is where we remembered that Phyllis actually saw Desmond (OK, Henry Ian Cusick) up at Comet on Connecticut Ave, NW, playing ping pong with his son. She was properly demure and did not intrude. DARN! So, we thought, maybe Carol will run into him sometime, too? She also reminded us that bagpipes are also an Irish thing...Irish like Charlie.
Great scene, though high on the WOW meter: Desmond and Charlie in the water, Charlie reliving his Looking Glass "Not Penny's Boat" moment. Wonder if Charlie really is conscious of the Island World, it seemed like he kept trying to kill himself to see the Blonde woman again. If he knew of the alternative world wouldn't he know killing himself wouldn't achieve anything - or...(I just thought) was it that sense of hopelessness that pushed him to suicide?
Is Desmond's salutation "See you in another life, Brotha" an indication that he has been through the Portals before? Does he know it on a subconscious level?
Is the Sacrifice that Desmond will have to stay on the Island? Does his ability to survive the electomagnetism bursts signify that he is tied to the Island...OF the Island somehow? If he has to stay, then we all felt that Penny and little Charlie better be there with him or we are going to be VERY not happy. And ...wait for it... could "Adam and Eve" really be DESMOND and PENNY?!?!?!? OoooooooH!!!!!!
Yes, for a brief moment we thought...if they are Adam and Eve, could little Charlie have grown up to be...CHARLES WIDMORE?!?!?!?!?!? Oi, Vay!
Is the coffee shop where Penny wants to meet Desmond for their first date the one where Libby met him to give him her boat in Island World?
HOPE REDEMPTION LOVE is that what its all about? Phyllis put it...the Answer to LOST is LOVE.
So here is where I put forth my most bizarro theory: In Sideways World, where the Island is destroyed, MIB succeeded in his escape plan. He destroyed the Island so he could never be put back in his prison. He is now in...Sydney! where he knows what Mrs. Widmore is up to...and so he took Christian Shepard's coffin off the plane! Eloise had told Ben that all had to be on the plane as close to the original Flt 815 as possible...including the body. What, you say, but this is Sideways World. Yes, but remember Eloise's reaction to seeing Desmond at the benefit... he was too soon, "in violation..." that weird, crafty woman knows LOTS more than where the fork should go! Now, we also came up with: Has Widmore ALWAYS known that Desmond needed to be on the Island? Is that why he was so mean to him...tried to keep him and Penny apart? Why he sponsored the sailing race that Desmond entered, the race that took him near the Island, where he crashed...like a certain other ship we know so well. Could it be that Eloise and Widmore have been working together for a loooong time, maybe in both worlds?
So, in other words, it IS all about Desmond!!!!!!!!!! not that that's a bad thing....
At this point we all admitted being confused and adjourned.
Namaste, Yinz
Wednesday, April 7, 2010
6.11 ...
Well, that was AMAZING!!!!!!!!!! Let me be the first to say boy wasn't I chasing down the wrong roads, huh?!?! Except...we did get a wonderful answer to my question - Penny most certainly was found in the Sideways world.
Now, those sneaky buggers and their previews that show scenes from shows down the road... that Amazing Grace will just drive me nuts... is it being played for Desmond? But then who else could play bagpipes? Maybe its being played BY Desmond for someone else?
And was it just me or did that scene of Sayid "rescuing" Desmond from Widmore's people seem like...just what they intended to happen? How else to get Desmond back over to the main Island?
OK, I really have to go... see you when I have had more of a chance to mull all this over...but YEAH PENNY AND DESMOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in both worlds.
Namaste, Yinz
Now, those sneaky buggers and their previews that show scenes from shows down the road... that Amazing Grace will just drive me nuts... is it being played for Desmond? But then who else could play bagpipes? Maybe its being played BY Desmond for someone else?
And was it just me or did that scene of Sayid "rescuing" Desmond from Widmore's people seem like...just what they intended to happen? How else to get Desmond back over to the main Island?
OK, I really have to go... see you when I have had more of a chance to mull all this over...but YEAH PENNY AND DESMOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in both worlds.
Namaste, Yinz
Tuesday, April 6, 2010
Tidbits pre:6.11 Happily Ever After
Well, everyone excited about tonight's episode???? Desmond lovers are on the edge of their Lazy Boys wondering what fate awaits Our Constant!
I wonder…will we see more on how Desmond and Libby connect? (I always suspected she was related to Widmore.) …is that vessel that’s seen sinking in the previews Penny’s boat in Oceanic 6 world? Is Penny even in Sideways World? And no, I'm not trusting the title of the episode...
And then there’s Amazing Grace… is it being played at a funeral (as we fear) or over a spiritual, or other, awakening? See below for info on the background of the hymn from Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazing_Grace … am I alone in seeing some familiar chords with LOST? [I know, sorry, couldn't resist...]
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"Amazing Grace" is a Christian hymn written by English poet and clergyman John Newton (1725–1807) published in 1779. With a message that forgiveness and redemption is possible regardless of the sins people commit and that the soul can be delivered from despair through the mercy of God, "Amazing Grace" is one of the most recognizable songs in the English-speaking world.
Newton wrote the words from personal experience. He grew up without any particular religious conviction but his life's path was formed by a variety of twists and coincidences that were often put into motion by his recalcitrant insubordination. He was pressed into the Royal Navy and became a sailor, eventually participating in the slave trade. One night a terrible storm battered his vessel so severely that he became frightened enough to call out to God for mercy, a moment that marked the beginning of his spiritual conversion. His career in slave trading lasted a few years more until he quit going to sea altogether and began studying theology.
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So, also want to alert you that I WILL be making a visit to the K Street Lost Lunchers (JOY!) so there will be a full report sometime Thursday evening...or Friday depending on how vaklempt I am... we are.... you know what I mean!!!!
Namaste, Yinz
I wonder…will we see more on how Desmond and Libby connect? (I always suspected she was related to Widmore.) …is that vessel that’s seen sinking in the previews Penny’s boat in Oceanic 6 world? Is Penny even in Sideways World? And no, I'm not trusting the title of the episode...
And then there’s Amazing Grace… is it being played at a funeral (as we fear) or over a spiritual, or other, awakening? See below for info on the background of the hymn from Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazing_Grace … am I alone in seeing some familiar chords with LOST? [I know, sorry, couldn't resist...]
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"Amazing Grace" is a Christian hymn written by English poet and clergyman John Newton (1725–1807) published in 1779. With a message that forgiveness and redemption is possible regardless of the sins people commit and that the soul can be delivered from despair through the mercy of God, "Amazing Grace" is one of the most recognizable songs in the English-speaking world.
Newton wrote the words from personal experience. He grew up without any particular religious conviction but his life's path was formed by a variety of twists and coincidences that were often put into motion by his recalcitrant insubordination. He was pressed into the Royal Navy and became a sailor, eventually participating in the slave trade. One night a terrible storm battered his vessel so severely that he became frightened enough to call out to God for mercy, a moment that marked the beginning of his spiritual conversion. His career in slave trading lasted a few years more until he quit going to sea altogether and began studying theology.
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So, also want to alert you that I WILL be making a visit to the K Street Lost Lunchers (JOY!) so there will be a full report sometime Thursday evening...or Friday depending on how vaklempt I am... we are.... you know what I mean!!!!
Namaste, Yinz
Monday, April 5, 2010
Interesting TidBit
Two items from The Watcher blog at the Chicago Tribune.
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2010/03/lost-abc-package.html#more
First, this observation which I think is worth chewing...
The biggest factoid of the episode may have been Widmore's explanation of what would happen if Smockey got off the island. Various people would just "cease to be," a phrase that is not exactly specific. Are the Sideways stories we're seeing the result of Smockey getting off the island? And if everyone decides to prevent Smockey from leaving, do those timelines simply go away? Food for thought, and I hope we learn more about those timelines and how they fit in soon.
Makes sense to me that Smokey would destroy the Island as he left so as to insure he couldn't go back.
and then this, which I thought this was just fun:
My husband contends that this week we got yet another version of an alternate universe on the island. "Jack is acting sane and nice and sensible," Mr. Watcher said. "That is clearly not the real Jack." Heh.
Namaste, Yinz
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2010/03/lost-abc-package.html#more
First, this observation which I think is worth chewing...
The biggest factoid of the episode may have been Widmore's explanation of what would happen if Smockey got off the island. Various people would just "cease to be," a phrase that is not exactly specific. Are the Sideways stories we're seeing the result of Smockey getting off the island? And if everyone decides to prevent Smockey from leaving, do those timelines simply go away? Food for thought, and I hope we learn more about those timelines and how they fit in soon.
Makes sense to me that Smokey would destroy the Island as he left so as to insure he couldn't go back.
and then this, which I thought this was just fun:
My husband contends that this week we got yet another version of an alternate universe on the island. "Jack is acting sane and nice and sensible," Mr. Watcher said. "That is clearly not the real Jack." Heh.
Namaste, Yinz
Saturday, April 3, 2010
Kimmel's Post Lost Special Announced - News on Finale Date
Just saw this at TVGuide.com (I didn't realize the Series Finale would not be on a Tuesday night... wonder what that's about):
ABC Plans Lost Post-Finale Special on Jimmy Kimmel
Apr 2, 2010 02:32 PM ET by Natalie Abrams
After Lost says goodbye on Sunday, May 23, [!] ABC will air a special post-finale episode of Jimmy Kimmel Live, the network announced Friday.
Jimmy Kimmel, an avowed Lost fan, will host an hour-long special analyzing the series, with help from executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse and several as-yet-unnamed cast members.
(Jimmy Kimmel Live: Aloha to Lost will air on May 23 at 11:35/10:35c on ABC.)
ABC Plans Lost Post-Finale Special on Jimmy Kimmel
Apr 2, 2010 02:32 PM ET by Natalie Abrams
After Lost says goodbye on Sunday, May 23, [!] ABC will air a special post-finale episode of Jimmy Kimmel Live, the network announced Friday.
Jimmy Kimmel, an avowed Lost fan, will host an hour-long special analyzing the series, with help from executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse and several as-yet-unnamed cast members.
(Jimmy Kimmel Live: Aloha to Lost will air on May 23 at 11:35/10:35c on ABC.)
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