Thursday, April 8, 2010

LOST Lunch 6.11 Happily Ever After

Your intrepid reporter schlepped downtown in our massive heatwave (OK, well, maybe not that bad today, but hey, I like sympathy too, you know...) to join with the gang to discuss the wonderful Desmond Centric "oh my heavens did they actually answer a question" episode...and yes, to see how Melissa came through it - she's fine.  Thanks to the kindness of local LOST fan Leslie I got to wear  a wonderful new t-shirt from Ian Leino which you can see here http://www.ianleino.com/ .  Scroll down past those cool beer labels...yep, that's me in the photo...this shirt is soooo slimming, n'est pas?   ;-)

Well, I started off by once again confessing to my guessing errors:  there was no Libby, no funeral, no bagpipes...  so, the gang wondered, just what is the sacrifice that Charles Widmore will ask of Desmond?

Carol informed the gang the Imdb.com (a really great website - under my links list for Movies) has a list of all the remaining episodes.  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/episodes#season-6  [Note: They number the episodes so that last night's was 610. The Washington Post Lost Blog does, too.  I go by the numbering at ABC.com where they broke the premiere into 2 parts, so Happily Ever After is listed as 611.]  Next week's episode is "Everybody Loves Hugo"  (we hope in a good non-lethal way) and there is the potentially ominous "What They Died For" as the penultimate episode.  The series finale?  What else:  "The End".

This is where the discussion turned to Constants, a thread that weaved through the whole meeting.  We wondered who the "...They..." were... those who weren't Constants, people that the  MIB killed (and why?) and we certainly are hoping its no one new...but what are the odds of us being that lucky?  Mr. Eko came up, we wondered if his brother was HIS Constant...so when he died it left Eko  vulnerable. 

Phyllis said she was confused.  This was another recurring theme of our lunch discussion.

Oh, that answer we got...  at least some of the folks in Sideways World ARE having vibes, if not downright memories, of the Island World.

Lisa and Melissa felt that there was too much of the Sideways World and not enough on the Island...but then they loved the focus on Desmond...

Carol remembered a Star Trek: Next Generation episode where Captain Picard is hit by an energy beam from a probe and  loses consciousness; he spends most of the time living another life on a planet as, among other things, a flute maker and player.  When he is revived (really only 25 minutes later) he retains the memories and knowledge of that civilization while able to return to his own  life.  See the full write up here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inner_Light_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) Might the Sideways World be something similar? 

I brought up my long held feeling  that BOTH the Island  World and the Sideways World  were not meant to be, the results of explosions, mistakes... something.  Widmore knows this somehow and is trying to put everything "right" but we don't know what that could be.  Is he a good witch or a bad witch?  He once wanted Ben to kill the baby Alex, something that seems totally evil.  Can he be trusted now?   Melissa commented that there is a lot of ambiguity about Good and Bad on the show. 

Is Charlie Desmond's Constant?  He seems to be acting like a Guardian Angel trying to guide Desmond.  It was then a little light went off in my head...  Charlie was "stepping in" -  just like Richard had encouraged Jacob in their conversation on the beach.  General discussion about Constants:  No one gets through life alone, without guides, supporters, people to point the way at critical times.  Everyone needs a Constant. If you don't have one nudging you along the path of Good you are very likely to get one who will push you the other way.  Constants are these Guiding Voices to the Good.

Great Moment when Daniel pulled out his journal, Melissa thought sure it was going to be the page where he had written "Desmond is my Constant" - I just thought it a hoot - Mom gave him that thing in Sideways World, too!  We loved when Mrs. Hawking, oops, Widmore, OK, ELOISE...   when she first saw Desmond.  Her "violation" line was soooo creepy.  Cheers on the return of George Mankowski, too.  The Painting in Widmore's office of the Scales of Justice, one white stone and one black one:  Maybe in Sideways World Widmore was on the Island (and met his dear wife...)  so are these another sign of that reality seeping through?

When Desmond regains consciousness on the Island it is preceded by White Clouds...very very similar to the ones we saw in the season premiere...  the camera went through a window on Flt 815...through the clouds then down into the ocean...down to the ruins of the Island.  That can't be just a co-inky dink!  Are they a representation of a portal between the 2  realities?  I believe that Desmond remembered Sideways World after he awoke in the Magnetic Doughnuts Room. Speaking of which, loved that I am not the only one who thought of the Flux Capacitor when they cranked that baby up! Pop culture nerds of the world UNITE!

All felt Sayid's brief appearance was very powerful...and creepy.  But someone wondered if he might be filling a guardian role, too?  Hmmmm....  I strongly felt that Desmond was so calm because he and Widmore had talked once he "came back"...  Widmore told him a plan that included the need for Desmond to go back to the main Island.  He probably knew that Sayid was there to "retrieve" Desmond - back to all that manipulation MIB and Widmore were doing.  So, Desmond knew what was coming. 

In my notes I have written "the girls got distracted by naked Desmond, so handsome...." yada, yada, yada.  It was at the other end of the table and they do get rambunctious down there....  I don't know how it started,  the discussion also included  how good Desmond looked all cleaned up in that suit, especially, I think, when he went to Charles' office. Let me say here that things got a little, shall we say, the discussion took a  less than intellectually based turn.  Probably good that the fellows weren't there today...maybe they knew.  But dang...Desmond is HOT!!!!

This is where Carol told us about her Tarot card reading on a trip to England in about 1995.  It was her last day and she was using up her last English money...ok, blowing it on something fun.  The person told her that a significant person in her life would be a man with a Scottish accent.  !!!!!  This is where we remembered that Phyllis actually saw Desmond (OK, Henry Ian Cusick) up at Comet on Connecticut Ave, NW, playing ping pong with his son.  She was properly demure and did not intrude. DARN!  So, we thought,  maybe Carol will run into him sometime, too?  She also reminded us that bagpipes are also an Irish thing...Irish like Charlie.

Great scene, though high on the WOW meter: Desmond and Charlie in the water, Charlie reliving his Looking Glass "Not Penny's Boat" moment.   Wonder if Charlie really is conscious of the Island World, it seemed like he kept trying to kill himself to see the Blonde woman again.  If he knew of the alternative world wouldn't he know killing himself wouldn't achieve anything - or...(I just thought) was it that sense of hopelessness that pushed him to suicide?

Is Desmond's salutation "See you in another life, Brotha" an indication that he has been through the Portals before?  Does he know it on a subconscious level?

Is the Sacrifice that Desmond will have to stay on the Island?  Does his ability to survive the electomagnetism bursts signify that he is tied to the Island...OF the Island somehow?  If he has to stay, then we all felt that Penny and little Charlie better be there with him or we are going to be VERY not happy.  And ...wait for it...  could "Adam and Eve" really be DESMOND and PENNY?!?!?!?  OoooooooH!!!!!!

Yes, for a brief moment we thought...if they are Adam and Eve, could little Charlie have grown up to be...CHARLES WIDMORE?!?!?!?!?!?  Oi, Vay!

Is the coffee shop where Penny wants to meet Desmond for their first date the one where Libby met him to give him her boat in Island World?

HOPE REDEMPTION LOVE   is that what its all about?  Phyllis put it...the Answer to LOST is LOVE.

So here is where I put forth my most bizarro theory:  In Sideways World, where the Island is destroyed, MIB succeeded in his escape plan.  He destroyed the Island so he could never be put back in his prison. He is now in...Sydney!  where he knows what Mrs. Widmore is up to...and so he took Christian Shepard's coffin off the plane!  Eloise had told Ben that all had to be on the plane as close to the original Flt 815 as possible...including the body.  What, you say, but this is Sideways World.  Yes, but remember Eloise's reaction to seeing Desmond at the benefit...  he was too soon, "in violation..." that weird, crafty woman knows  LOTS more than where the fork should go!  Now, we also came up with:  Has Widmore ALWAYS known that Desmond needed to be on the Island?  Is that why he was so mean to him...tried to keep him and Penny apart?  Why he sponsored the sailing race that Desmond entered, the race that took him near the Island, where he crashed...like a certain other ship we know so well. Could it be that Eloise and Widmore have been working together for a loooong time, maybe in both worlds?

So, in other words, it IS all about Desmond!!!!!!!!!!  not that that's a bad thing....

At this point we all admitted being confused and adjourned.

Namaste, Yinz

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